Measuring Cars for Tall People: Vision Line Height 19


Of all the height biased man made objects, cars are perhaps the most problematic for tall people. The one size fits all approach results in poor ergonomics leading to both long term and immediate health hazards. There are some modifications that can be done to improve a car’s fit, but the first step is to choose a car with the most space possible.

With so many cars on the market, finding the best fit can be difficult. The measurement most often cited when characterizing a car’s suitability for a tall person is headroom. Headroom is the vertical distance from the lowest point on the seat to a point directly above it on the roof. Here are two major cruxes with this: First, cars that allow the seat to be adjusted really low to the floor of the cabin have misleadingly larger headroom; this position leaves the tall driver with insufficient legroom. And second, it does the driver no good to utilize the top inch or so of the cabin as the roofline cuts off visibility.

Vision Line Height for Tall People

This leads to the hereby coined term, Vision Line Height (VLH): the vertical height between the foot well and where the windshield meets the roof. VLH is measured inside the car with the floor mat removed, which can often be in excess of 1/2″ thick. Most cars can be measured with just a tape measure: Use one hand to hold the end to the floor and measure vertically to the roof line. The measurement should be taken as close to the steering wheel as you can while still keeping the tape vertical.

Measuring Vision Line Height

At the end of this article you will find a VLH list. Though it is a few years old, it is still useful as not much has changed. If you get a chance, please check out you car’s VLH and post it in the comments. Below are some of the more interesting VLH findings.

The top cars are the Ford Transit Connect (51-1/2″), Ford E-series vans (49-1/8″), the pre-2007 Scion XB (47-1/2″), and the Honda Element (46-5/8″). Other noteworthy cars are the Nissan Titan (46″), the Honda Pilot (46″), the Ford Escape (46-1/4″), and the Ford Flex (46-3/8″). If you are truly desperate, there is also the commercial Mercedes Sprinter (52-3/4″))

Much to the contrary of popular opinion, behemoth vehicles don’t necessarily provide lots of space for tall people, the Hummer (VLH = 43″) being a prime example.

Big cars are not necessarily better for tall people: Hummer

Long-limbed tall people may find legroom to be a bigger problem than vertical space. Such people may prefer to use legroom as the main measurement when searching for a car. However, picking a car with a large VLH is still important as it means the seat can be in a higher position, which coincides with more legroom. Besides, it is possible to modify cars to get more car legroom for tall people, but this is not the case for cabin height.

It is my hope that, with your help, Vision Line Height will become a standard measurement provided by car manufacturers. This will make the suitability of cars for tall people more transparent and might even inspire a visionary manufacturer to produce a car with an unusually large Vision Line Height! So please use this term whenever you can.

Make Model Year Vision Line Height (inches)
Nissan Titan 2013 46
Pathfinder 2014 44-1/2
Juke 2013 43-3/4
Altima 2013 43-1/8
Versa 2014 43-3/4
Honda Element 2003-2011 46-5/8
Pilot 2013 46
Civic Coup 2013 42
Accord 2013 43
Fit 2013 44
CRV 2014 43-1/8
Odyssey 2013 45-3/8
Ford Taurus 2002 43
Fusion 2013 42-1/2
Focus 2014 42-3/4
Fiesta 2013 41-3/4
Escape 2013 46.25
Econoline 2013 49-1/8
Flex 2013 46-3/8
Edge 2013 45-3/4
Transit Connect 2013 51-1/2
GMC Silverado 2013 45-1/2
Terrain 2014 42-1/2
Trax 2014 45-1/2
Spark 2014 42-3/8
Camaro Coup 2013 38
Cruze 2014 41-1/2
Malibu 2013 41
Impala 2014 41
Lacross 2013 42
Hummer 2008 43
Chrysler/Dodge Journey 2014 45-1/2
Ram 2013 46-1/4
Caravan 2014 44-7/8
Wrangler 2014 45-1/2
LX 200 2014 41
Dart 2014 42-3/8
Chrysler 300 2013 42-3/8
Suburu Outback 2014 42-3/4
Impreza 2013 42-1/4
Crosstrek 2014 42-1/4
Forester 2014 45-7/8
BRZ 2014 39-1/2
Legacy 2012 43
Kia Optima 2013 42
Sportage 2013 43-1/8
Sorento 2014 44-1/4
Soul 2013 44-1/4
Cadenza 2014 41-1/2
Rondo 2014 45-3/4
Rio 2013 42
Hyundai Sante Fe 2013 44-1/2
Tucson 2013 44-7/8
Elan Tar 2013 41-1/2
Mercedes Sprinter 2013 52-3/4
GLK 350 2010 43-7/8
ML 350 2010 43-3/8
R 350 2011 44-3/4
Audi Q5 2010 42-7/8
A4 2014 40-1/2
Saab 9-3 2008 41
Lexus IS 250 2009 39-1/8
Cadillac SRX 2014 43-1/2
Escalade 2013 45-1/8
CTS 2013 40
ATS 2013 29-1/2
Toyota Prius 2014 44

Toyota Prius V (2014) 44”


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19 thoughts on “Measuring Cars for Tall People: Vision Line Height

    • Tall Life Post author

      I plan to at some point, though it’s a lot of work and I’m swamped these days. I’m always eager to put up data collected by the community 🙂

      • Anonymous

        This is a really interesting topic. As a tall guy I completely understand where you are coming from. Let’s try to get more cars in this list. Can you share your data collection methodology and others can take measurements and post.

      • Tall Life Post author

        I added a couple sentences describing how to measure. I’ll try to take some pictures when I get a chance. I’m hoping people can just send me the car model and year along with the VLH measurement, either in the comments or via the contact page. I’ll then update the table on this page.

      • Bran

        This would be a great idea. But we need to establish a standard for ho wwe measure the windshields. Please tell us how to measure a windshield or post a video about how to do it.

  • Tall Man

    I love the premise! There’s one aspect that might be misleading however, which is minimum seat height. Some cars’ seats go a lot lower/closer to the floor than others, which can change the value of Vision Line Height pretty dramatically.

    • Tall Life Post author

      Yup, that’s the crux of it. So ideally we would have seat height measurement too. It’s a lot trickier to measure though as you would need some custom apparatus… As far as a single measurement to characterize how friendly a car is for tall people, I think VLH is the best way to go.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve always used my own subjective assessment of where the headliner or windshield tint is and also how much I have to lower and tilt back the seat to get as much vision below the headliner-windshield seam as possible, which makes most vehicles ridiculous to drive. A standard measure for shopping from the couch is a great idea. Has Consumer Reports taken up the idea? I suggest anybody interested in this write them since they actually buy the cars they test and do not have to rely on factory published dimensions. I keep looking for something to replace my older SUV and the options are horrible particularly if you have a long torso. Full-size SUVs no longer help with their sloping windshields.

    • Tall Life Post author

      Contacting consumer reports is a great idea, such a prominent third party could really help popularize this measurement!

  • Thankful

    This is an incredibly helpful blog. I’m not sure if you’re motivated to keep it up, but I’d be happy to donate if you put up a PayPal link. This is a frustrating shopping experience- and you’ve nailed the problems. Even top Google search results for “cars for tall guys” come back with prominent car mags measuring headroom

    Here’s praying you can keep this up or fund a clever way for the community to post the measurements

    • Tall Life Post author

      Thank you for the feedback and kind words! The VLH concept is something I came up with when I was desperate to be sit up straight to save my spine further degeneration. My old man accompanied me as we drove all around town checking out different cars. Some day I’ll do it again. In the meantime, as I’ve mentioned, anyone who sends in measurements via the comments or contact email, I’ll post these to the list. I wish I had the resources to do some kind of collaborative system… some day perhaps.

      I’ve added a donation button to the top of the sidebar. Any donation will help fund Tall.Life projects. But honestly, the best motivation for me is comments like yours. It’s hard not to feel like all this content is going out to an empty void sometimes, but comments like yours make me realize I’m being helpful 🙂

      Thank you again!

  • Jackie

    This is the dumbest way to measure it possible!!!! You could have a seat that is low to the floor and still be fine. You must measure from the seat to the roof. NO ONE sits on the floor that I know of. LOL

    • Marv

      Try not to think one dimensionally. It’s useful to compare the headroom with how low the top of the windshield is. Not much used in fitting inside, but then not being able to see red and green lights overhead.

    • steph

      I disagree Jackie, I’ll explain: A seat pushed all the way to the floor may technically allow me to fit in a car, but that arrangement is untenable for some of us. It puts too much pressure on the wrong parts of my spine and changes all the other driving dynamics negatively. I myself want a very upright position AND I want to see out the windshield AND not have my head mere centimeters from hitting the door jamb in the event of an accident. So, this is VLH is a pretty decent proposal.

  • PaulPC

    Legroom isn’t usually a problem for me. I have a friend who is 6’6″, I’m 6’2″, and his legs are 4″ longer than mine. So when I am seated, I look like a *really* tall guy. What is of most concern to me is the seated headroom minus the distance from the ceiling line down to the VLH. I get what you are saying about the vision line being important. I have driven cars where I could barely see past the hood of the car, so I either had to bend over sideways to drive, or sit up really tall and stick my head out the sunroof.

  • steph

    I disagree Jackie, I’ll explain: A seat pushed all the way to the floor may technically allow me to fit in a car, but that arrangement is untenable for some of us. It puts too much pressure on the wrong parts of my spine and changes all the other driving dynamics negatively. I myself want a very upright position AND I want to see out the windshield AND not have my head mere centimeters from hitting the door jamb in the event of an accident. So, this is VLH is a pretty decent proposal.

  • MatthewOnBowen

    We bought into a rivian rs1 to accommodate my 6’8 and a family of five. I know that many consider it a luxury vehicle but for my body size, family size (tall boys), and carbon footprint, the choice between a Suburban or the rivian, of equal size and cost, the Rivian felt like more of a future forward purchase. PLUS the Rivian does not have a full length center console which means room to swing the knees sideways.

    Headroom 41in
    VLH 44 in
    Legroom 43 in
    Legroom past the pedals 52 in